I attended the Tipping Point for LGBT Portrayals in Comics panel. It
was an interesting discussion with professionals in the biz who are
gay and/or have a major hand in the gay portrayals that are appearing
in comics currently. The discussion was initially heavily directed at
Greg Rucka who is writing Detective Comics (the title that DC Comics
gets its name from) which has recently been taken over by two lesbian
characters. It is the first major book to be headlined by a gay
character. Rucka made a lot of good points over the course of the
panel, whether I agree with them or not. He talked about the
mainstream comics audience (young straight males) being more receptive
to lesbian characters, and while that is a sign that there is more
work to do it is also a window through which to affect change. Rucka
also talked about his wariness to depict gay characters negatively -
as villains or flawed - because he doesn't want to give the opposition
any ammunition. This point met with some opposition, myself included,
but I see his point. I want gay characters to be treated like any
other character in a good story, but they are scarce. If most of the
gay characters we have in comics are villains what does that do to
change the perception that bigoted or ignorant people have of them?
Show me 20 sustained, featured gay good guys and I'll start giving you
villains. It is going to be hard to treat gay characters equitably -
good and bad - before being gay is irreversibly separated from the
concepts of good and evil.
To address the title of this post. Perry Moore spent much of his time
trying to convince the comic-loving audience that comics are evil to
gays and only books could possibly be seen as getting it right - or,
at least, that is how it seemed. I don't know if the man was just
offensively bad at making his point or if he was really so
dissatisfied with incremental change that he was willing to attack the
people attempting to make it. As much as I would like there to be a
monumental shift, an easy button for gay equality, there just isn't
going to be one. I appreciate Moore's sentiment, it was an integral
part of drama-con, but to say that every gay character and every gay
moment ought to be the main feature the comic that contains it is
ludicrous. Asking the authors and artists of these books to tell a
bad story for the sole purpose of ramming the gay agenda down readers'
throats is the worst possible tactic. To Moore's defense, I too am
anxious for change. It is easy to become frustrated and discouraged.
It was all too easy for me to look at Joss Whedon, who has done a
beautiful job of writing lesbian characters and ask why his only gay
character is closeted comic relief. It is hard to be excited about
incremental change, it is without comfort to accept slow progress when
all you're asking for is a chance given to everyone else you know. I
want to have heroes, I want to have role models, I want to characters
in books and film and comics, that I can look to, emulate, connect
with and be inspired by with out the nagging realization that they
aren't quite like me. My relationship with so much of culture is
experienced from behind a glass wall. I often forget it is there, but
then I collide with it all the harder.
I've got to believe it's getting better, getting better all the time...
Dear Ben,
ReplyDeleteThanks for such a supportive post. I'm so horrified I lent that impression that I wasn't supportive of some of the recent giant leaps forward in LGBT representation in comic books. I had a pile of them in front of me, but the moderator didn't really give me time to go over them. Mostly I was just aghast that due to lack of panel moderation or research, people assumed I was a Hollywood producer. I'm not. My message in HERO couldn't be more positive and affirming. And I genuinely hope comics are catching up.
I was really surprised that no one seemed to hear me compliment Mark Andreyko on his run with Manhunter -- his depiction of Obsidian as a gay hero was one of the best in the world of comics. I don't know how that was perceived as negative. I can only hope we see that same depiction continued with Obsidian in the pages of JSA. We haven't seen it yet. I didn't expect the Simpsons mob when I pointed out that the JSA hadn't done as well as Mark had done with Obsidian as a real, flesh and blood, gay character. But sometimes the truth hurts. And I still do find it pretty ugly that a gay guy's nose was graphically bitten off in the pages of The Boys. (We couldn't get away with that in a movie or a YA book.) I do think things in general will get better though with comic books! Or at least I hope they do!
Still, you can't argue with the ugly truth that DC cancelled Manhunter and refuses to give Obsidian his own book. That speaks to my point about young adult fiction. The publishers were utterly FEARLESS about making a young gay hero the star of his own book. Comics haven't caught up yet.
Yet.
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ReplyDeleteThe great Andy Mangels Gays in comics panel was far more indicative of everyone's attitude in my modest opinion. But I haven't seen anyone write about that one yet. Have you? Wow, it was such a humbling experience being up there with those comic greats in a packed room on Andy's famous panel!!!!
Back to the Tipping Point confusion, most of the comic book I brought were to show how things were getting better, but I kept getting interrupted, so I never got a chance to get to those!
At any rate, all opinions mean a great deal to me. It's very difficult being on a panel when you are the only one who writes young adult books about superheroes -- not part of the Marvel or DC loop. Overall, though, I think things are getting much better. Let's hope the state of California follows suit.
Also, what you were not privy too was that I had a group of 45 teen fans who'd traveled to see me waiting outside to come get their books signed afteward. Their teachers and some parents were with them, and I was very distressed that I could not bring them to the PRISM booth, because this year they left all their pornography on display. Since we're adults, sometimes it's hard for us to remember that's not appropriate material for teen students to see.
Either way, thanks for coming to the panel. I kept leaning in to the moderator to make sure the two gentlemen sitting to my left had a chance to say something, because the other side of the table announced it was time to move on to the Q&A, and these panelists had not been able to speak yet.
Also, there was a young woman with an excellent question about the "T" in LGBT literature in comic books. At the NY Comic Con, I had the pleasure of doing a panel with a jewel of a human being who has a book
called "Digital Noixe" with a transgendered hero. Additionally, ALL of his super-group of heroes are HIV positive. He is a kind and wonderful writer-artist named Robert Walker. I thought that was a great example, and I actually brought the book with me. I was going to give her the comic book, but she cut cut me off and said she no longer wanted to hear me talk. But Robert is working so hard to get his work out there that I just have to mention his work. You can read more about him at Cyberdelete.com. If you'd like the comic yourself, I'd be happy to pass his creative work along. To me that's a sign thing are getting better, too. So if you want it, just show up to a signing, and I'll bring it with me. Again, the creator's name is Robert Walker, and his work is mostly self-published which is why I wanted to give him -- like Tommy Roddy's PRIDE HIGH -- the shout out at the panel when he spoke up in the back. He included a character, just coming out of the closet, reading a copy of HERO in one of his issues.
Thanks again for the nice comment about the panel. Heroes are important -- in comic books, in movies, in books, on TV -- everywhere! Judging by the fan mail I receive, I know HERO, a modest YA book, making a big difference in a lot of young people's lives.
Best wishes,
Perry Moore
perrymoorestories@gmail.com